The Patron Saint of Paedophiles.
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You can see an image of Alice Liddell on the right hand side
Alice Day is Paedophile pride day -April 25th
Charles Dodgson did not love 'Children' He loved lots of little girls, especially Alice Liddell. He was obsessed with her. He spent every moment that he could with her. Up until suddenly in June 1863, their friendship ended after an unexplained rift with Alice's Mother. He also took many images of nude girls (Not boys) Some which were posed seductively, unlike the images of other Victorian photographers like Julia Cameron, who used nude children. But they were not erotically posed like Dodgson's photographs. Around this same time, he suddenly gave up his love of photography after his request to photograph nude children without the presence their parents. The full frontal naked photograph of Alice's sister Lorina was recently discovered in a French museum. The photograph states that it is 'Lorina Liddell by Charles Dodgson' It has been tested and concluded that it is not a fake and a forensic test compared Dodgsons original images of Lorina to that of the nude teenager. They concluded that the facial features are indeed the same girl and that Lorina would of been the same age as the nude girl.
He wrote to Gertrude Thomson, an artist who was sketching girlish fairies and nymphs, "I confess I do not admire naked boys in pictures. They always seem... to need clothes, whereas one hardly sees why the lovely forms of girls should ever be covered up."
This image of a photo possibly of Lorina Liddell by Dodgson (Which I have censored) I found on a 'Girl lovers' Chatroom
And here is a close-up of her face
You can see an image of Alice Liddell on the right hand side
Alice Day is Paedophile pride day -April 25th
Charles Dodgson did not love 'Children' He loved lots of little girls, especially Alice Liddell. He was obsessed with her. He spent every moment that he could with her. Up until suddenly in June 1863, their friendship ended after an unexplained rift with Alice's Mother. He also took many images of nude girls (Not boys) Some which were posed seductively, unlike the images of other Victorian photographers like Julia Cameron, who used nude children. But they were not erotically posed like Dodgson's photographs. Around this same time, he suddenly gave up his love of photography after his request to photograph nude children without the presence their parents. The full frontal naked photograph of Alice's sister Lorina was recently discovered in a French museum. The photograph states that it is 'Lorina Liddell by Charles Dodgson' It has been tested and concluded that it is not a fake and a forensic test compared Dodgsons original images of Lorina to that of the nude teenager. They concluded that the facial features are indeed the same girl and that Lorina would of been the same age as the nude girl.
He wrote to Gertrude Thomson, an artist who was sketching girlish fairies and nymphs, "I confess I do not admire naked boys in pictures. They always seem... to need clothes, whereas one hardly sees why the lovely forms of girls should ever be covered up."
This image of a photo possibly of Lorina Liddell by Dodgson (Which I have censored) I found on a 'Girl lovers' Chatroom
And here is a close-up of her face
Charles lutwidge Dodgson aka Lewis Carroll with the Liddell family
"I am fond of children (except boys)," and photographed many pretty little girls -- some languidly stretched out on a bed, some nude". Charles Dodgson.
*(I was unable to find any photographs of 'nude boys')
Evelyn Hatch- by Charles Dodgson.
Charles Dodgson and some of the little girls that he photographed.
Lewis Carroll's shifting reputation.
"I am fond of children (except boys)," and photographed many pretty little girls -- some languidly stretched out on a bed, some nude". Charles Dodgson.
*(I was unable to find any photographs of 'nude boys')
Charles Dodgson and some of the little girls that he photographed.
Dodgson
had been groomed for the ordained ministry in the Anglican Church from a
very early age and was expected, as a condition of his residency at
Christ Church, to take holy orders within four years of obtaining his
master's degree. However, he evidently became reluctant to do this. He
delayed the process for some time but eventually took deacon's orders 22
December 22, 1861. But when the time came a year later to progress to
priestly orders, Dodgson appealed to the dean for permission not to
proceed. This was against college rules, and initially Dean Liddell told
him he would have to consult the college ruling body, which would
almost undoubtedly have resulted in his being expelled. However, for
unknown reasons, Dean Liddell changed his mind overnight and permitted
Dodgson to remain at the college, in defiance of the rules. Uniquely
amongst Senior Students of his time Dodgson never became a priest.
There
is currently no conclusive evidence about why Dodgson rejected the
priesthood. Some have suggested his stammer made him reluctant to take
the step, because he was afraid of having to preach. Wilson quotes
letters by Dodgson describing difficulty in reading lessons and prayers
rather than preaching in his own words. But Dodgson did indeed preach in
later life, even though not in priest's orders, so it seems unlikely
his impediment was a major factor affecting his choice. Wilson also
points out that the then Bishop of Oxford, Samuel Wilberforce, who
ordained Dodgson, had strong views against members of the clergy going
to the theatre, one of Dodgson's great interests. Others have suggested
that he was having serious doubts about the Anglican church. It is known
that he was interested in minority forms of Christianity (he was an
admirer of FD Maurice) and "alternative" religions (theosophy). Dodgson
became deeply troubled by an unexplained sense of sin and guilt at this
time (the early 1860s), and frequently expressed the view in his diaries
that he was a "vile and worthless" sinner, unworthy of
the priesthood, and this sense of sin and unworthiness may well have had
an impact on his decision to abandon the priesthood.
In 1945, Florence Becker Lennon advanced the case that Dodgson had had an unhealthy attraction to Alice with Victoria Through the Looking Glass,
the first modern critical biography of him. “People have wondered what
he did with his love life,” Lennon wrote. “Now it can be told. He loved
little girls, but, like Peter Pan, he had no intention of marrying
them.” But Alice, she wrote, “was the first and most favoured of his
girl friends,” and she speculated about the idea that Dodgson
precipitated the rift with the Liddells by proposing “honourable
marriage to [Alice] directly or through her parents” in 1863. Alice was
11 then—too young, even by Victorian mores.
Lennon’s basis for the assertion may have seemed sound: Ina was one of her sources. (Alice did not talk to Lennon because, her sister said, she was ill.) But in a letter to Alice, Ina wrote, “I tremble at what I said” to Lennon about the Liddell family’s supposed rift with Dodgson. “I said his manner became too affectionate to you as you grew older and that mother spoke to him about it, and that offended him, so he ceased coming to visit us again.” Ina had also told Lennon that she, Ina, was 10 at the time—but she was 14, or old enough to entertain formal suitors.
Full frontal nude photo of Lorina Liddell found
Lennon’s basis for the assertion may have seemed sound: Ina was one of her sources. (Alice did not talk to Lennon because, her sister said, she was ill.) But in a letter to Alice, Ina wrote, “I tremble at what I said” to Lennon about the Liddell family’s supposed rift with Dodgson. “I said his manner became too affectionate to you as you grew older and that mother spoke to him about it, and that offended him, so he ceased coming to visit us again.” Ina had also told Lennon that she, Ina, was 10 at the time—but she was 14, or old enough to entertain formal suitors.
Full frontal nude photo of Lorina Liddell found
The secret symbols used by paedophiles to identify each other
The secret world of Lewis Carroll-BBC documentary
The secret world of Lewis Carroll-BBC documentary
Some examples from paedophile (or as they like to call themselves 'Girl Lovers')
forums,chat rooms and magazines
Suzzan! I am speechless. This painting is revealing and heartbreaking. Its meaning an eye opener. tahnk you and God bless you! Barbara
ReplyDeleteThank you so much Barbara. Yes, I know it's a sad affair, that Lewis Carroll had ulterior motives to get close to children. But, the truth should be known.
Deletei love how vocal and visual you are about everything. it's very empowering to myself personally and i'm sure others that have been abused and at times lose our voice. your images are very dark at times but very appropriate in my opinion. thank you for sharing your art and life.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much jackie..I know what you mean, and I am so lucky to have the skills available to convey the truth.
ReplyDeleteYou know, I was randomly surfing the net with no clue of what it was I wanted to watch, hear or read, all because I wanted (and sort of felt like I needed to) write something. To write something people don't talk about much. Something that makes people feel vulnerable, awake and alive but mostly, aware and brave. Then your facebook page came up, I saw an art piece of yours and clicked the link that led me to this very blog you have so bravely created. Sadness came across my heart and moved my confused mind into utter blankness. I felt completely fragile just gazing at the words you wrote and the pictures you crafted. You, your story, your past and your present - it is raw, pure and truthful. And you really tug at the emotional and mental strings inside of me. I feel that that is what I was looking for. You've shown me what needs to be spoken of more even when it is hard to speak of. I want to write about your story and how these things still happen. If you would let me, please let me know. But otherwise, thank you. Suzzan, you're most definitely an unbelieveably brave and courageous woman.
ReplyDeleteI am so very sorry that I missed your comment! I only just saw it when I was updating! Thank you so much for your kind, thoughtful words and if it's not to late..Please feel free to write and use my art for your purposes. Best wishes Suzzan
DeleteI'm Coming and hell is coming with me.
ReplyDeleteyou are publishing several known FAKES, please try to make your point without the FAKES
ReplyDeleteFAKE: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ry4KZgOevrQ/WP94uwZ3TTI/AAAAAAAACe4/iVqPBjq5_voe8jzg-eipwPPwNeDmlKAqwCLcB/s1600/tumblr_njnlovP6zB1qb1ukpo1_500.jpg
NOT the Liddell family, but the Macdonalds: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aFOykaeB9aA/UuUjq9NVZ2I/AAAAAAAAAYc/AQPW1behfog/s1600/louisa_4_children_w_lewis_carroll_1862.jpg
And the Ina letter to Alice was the two sisters getting their story straight, you left off the last sentence in Ina's letter "one must say something mustn't one?" So...a Dodgson increased affection to Alice is NOT the reason he was banned from the Deanery,
you are publishing several known FAKES, please try to make your point without the FAKES
ReplyDeleteFAKE: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ry4KZgOevrQ/WP94uwZ3TTI/AAAAAAAACe4/iVqPBjq5_voe8jzg-eipwPPwNeDmlKAqwCLcB/s1600/tumblr_njnlovP6zB1qb1ukpo1_500.jpg
NOT the Liddell family, but the Macdonalds: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aFOykaeB9aA/UuUjq9NVZ2I/AAAAAAAAAYc/AQPW1behfog/s1600/louisa_4_children_w_lewis_carroll_1862.jpg
And the Ina letter to Alice was the two sisters getting their story straight, you left off the last sentence in Ina's letter "one must say something mustn't one?" So...a Dodgson increased affection to Alice is NOT the reason he was banned from the Deanery,
you are publishing several known FAKES, please try to make your point without the FAKES
ReplyDeleteFAKE: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ry4KZgOevrQ/WP94uwZ3TTI/AAAAAAAACe4/iVqPBjq5_voe8jzg-eipwPPwNeDmlKAqwCLcB/s1600/tumblr_njnlovP6zB1qb1ukpo1_500.jpg
NOT the Liddell family, but the Macdonalds: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aFOykaeB9aA/UuUjq9NVZ2I/AAAAAAAAAYc/AQPW1behfog/s1600/louisa_4_children_w_lewis_carroll_1862.jpg
And the Ina letter to Alice was the two sisters getting their story straight, you left off the last sentence in Ina's letter "one must say something mustn't one?" So...a Dodgson increased affection to Alice is NOT the reason he was banned from the Deanery,
I sincerely doubt this *artist* is bothered by facts.
DeleteHave you actually done any research? As it appears you have merely just parroted things you've found on the net.
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